Discussion:
SRV record not working
Thomas Strike
2018-08-17 17:27:51 UTC
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I have created a SRV record for a new subdomain A record. I set nslookup
to use my DNS server directly and when I query for the A record it
returns it. When I set type=SRV and ask for the srv record nothing is
returned.

My SRV record: _minecraft._tcp.skyblock.mc-game.us.    IN SRV    0 5
25567 skyblock.mc-game.us.

I need a 2nd pair of eyes on this one.

Thanks, Tom Strike

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Bob Harold
2018-08-17 17:41:02 UTC
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Post by Thomas Strike
I have created a SRV record for a new subdomain A record. I set nslookup
to use my DNS server directly and when I query for the A record it
returns it. When I set type=SRV and ask for the srv record nothing is
returned.
My SRV record: _minecraft._tcp.skyblock.mc-game.us. IN SRV 0 5
25567 skyblock.mc-game.us.
I need a 2nd pair of eyes on this one.
Thanks, Tom Strike
Works for me:

nslookup -q=srv _minecraft._tcp.skyblock.mc-game.us. 8.8.8.8
Server: 8.8.8.8
Address: 8.8.8.8#53

Non-authoritative answer:
_minecraft._tcp.skyblock.mc-game.us service = 0 5 25567 skyblock.mc-game.us.

Authoritative answers can be found from:


dig srv _minecraft._tcp.skyblock.mc-game.us. @8.8.8.8

; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P4-Ubuntu <<>> srv _minecraft._tcp.skyblock.mc-game.us. @
8.8.8.8
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 53437
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;_minecraft._tcp.skyblock.mc-game.us. IN SRV

;; ANSWER SECTION:
_minecraft._tcp.skyblock.mc-game.us. 299 IN SRV 0 5 25567
skyblock.mc-game.us.

;; Query time: 56 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Fri Aug 17 13:38:35 EDT 2018
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 103
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Carl Byington
2018-08-17 17:42:44 UTC
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Post by Thomas Strike
I need a 2nd pair of eyes on this one.
Works for me.

dig _minecraft._tcp.skyblock.mc-game.us srv

;; ANSWER SECTION:
_minecraft._tcp.skyblock.mc-game.us. 300 IN SRV 0 5 25567 skyblock.mc-
game.us.


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iEYEAREKAAYFAlt3CPAACgkQL6j7milTFsHoywCfRQIVqUZnycWdYGdRupaSEWiU
ZlsAn18No1vPczhoAURmolzbt3Z+I7PU
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wharfratjoe
2018-08-17 20:53:36 UTC
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Seems ok here using: dig +trace srv _minecraft._tcp.skyblock.mc-game.us.


mc-game.us. 3600 IN NS ns1.sleepyvalley.net.
mc-game.us. 3600 IN NS sdns2.ovh.ca.
;; Received 113 bytes from 156.154.126.70#53(156.154.126.70) in 168 ms

_minecraft._tcp.skyblock.mc-game.us. 300 IN SRV 0 5 25567
skyblock.mc-game.us.
;; Received 92 bytes from 167.114.154.31#53(167.114.154.31) in 73 ms
Post by Carl Byington
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Post by Thomas Strike
I need a 2nd pair of eyes on this one.
Works for me.
dig _minecraft._tcp.skyblock.mc-game.us srv
_minecraft._tcp.skyblock.mc-game.us. 300 IN SRV 0 5 25567 skyblock.mc-
game.us.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)
iEYEAREKAAYFAlt3CPAACgkQL6j7milTFsHoywCfRQIVqUZnycWdYGdRupaSEWiU
ZlsAn18No1vPczhoAURmolzbt3Z+I7PU
=EQx5
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Thomas Strike
2018-08-17 17:57:03 UTC
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Thanks all for your quick response. I didn't need a 2nd pair of eyes, I
needed a 2nd brain. I didn't think that I had to use the fully qualified
domain name and was just using the subdomain.domain.name for the
queries. What can I say, I'm old and going senile. Your responses showed
me the error of my ways. My record was working, I wasn't.

Thanks again everyone.

p.s.
I know that most of you hate nslookup but I have been using it since the
90's and it's my go-to utility. I get the same responses whether I use
Dig or nslookup. If nslookup doesn't return what I am looking for, I do
use Dig also.

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;I have created a SRV record for a new subdomain A record. I set
;nslookup to use my DNS server directly and when I query for the A
;record it returns it. When I set type=SRV and ask for the srv record
;nothing is returned.

;My SRV record: _minecraft._tcp.skyblock.mc-game.us.    IN SRV    0 5
;25567 skyblock.mc-game.us.

;I need a 2nd pair of eyes on this one.

;Thanks, Tom Strike

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Bob McDonald
2018-08-18 13:25:37 UTC
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Post by Thomas Strike
I know that most of you hate nslookup but I have been using it since the
90's and it's my go-to utility. I get the same responses whether I use
Dig or nslookup. If nslookup doesn't return what I am looking for, I do
use Dig also.
I don't think anyone hates nslookup (well maybe a few do <grin>) I suppose
the immense dislike stems from the fact that it's the default utility under
Windows. Folks who use dig as their default realize that when used
properly, dig provides much more functionality than nslookup. For example,
try using TSIG with nslookup or getting a NSID response. These are only a
couple of examples. There's other reasons to change. The output from dig is
much more comprehensive. And, yes, if you install the bind tools from ISC
under Windows, dig works quite well.

Just my $.02

Bob
Grant Taylor via bind-users
2018-08-18 17:42:20 UTC
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Post by Bob McDonald
I don't think anyone hates nslookup (well maybe a few do <grin>) I
suppose the immense dislike stems from the fact that it's the default
utility under Windows. Folks who use dig as their default realize that
when used properly, dig provides much more functionality than nslookup.
For example, try using TSIG with nslookup or getting a NSID response.
These are only a couple of examples. There's other reasons to change.
The output from dig is much more comprehensive. And, yes, if you install
the bind tools from ISC under Windows, dig works quite well.
I've been told that nslookup will lie and provide incorrect information
in some situations. I have no idea what situations that is. I would
love to learn what they are.

If you know of such an example, please enlighten me.

As such, I tend to use nslookup on platforms without dig when or until I
have reason to not do so.
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Paul Kosinski
2018-08-18 18:02:41 UTC
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When I started using Linux almost 20 years ago, I think there was only
nslookup, and no dig. So by habit, I tend to use it unless the extra
power of dig outweighs its extra complexity. I don't remember what I
used on Windows back when I was regularly using both.


On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 11:42:20 -0600
Post by Grant Taylor via bind-users
Post by Bob McDonald
I don't think anyone hates nslookup (well maybe a few do <grin>) I
suppose the immense dislike stems from the fact that it's the
default utility under Windows. Folks who use dig as their default
realize that when used properly, dig provides much more
functionality than nslookup. For example, try using TSIG with
nslookup or getting a NSID response. These are only a couple of
examples. There's other reasons to change. The output from dig is
much more comprehensive. And, yes, if you install the bind tools
from ISC under Windows, dig works quite well.
I've been told that nslookup will lie and provide incorrect
information in some situations. I have no idea what situations that
is. I would love to learn what they are.
If you know of such an example, please enlighten me.
As such, I tend to use nslookup on platforms without dig when or
until I have reason to not do so.
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Paul Kosinski
2018-08-18 20:13:14 UTC
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Extra complexity -- "man dig" yields 289 lines while "man nslookup"
yields only 160 lines.

Also, dig is not simply an extension of nslookup (which I long ago
abbreviated to nsl), but is significantly different, so it using it
involves the human analog of a cache miss.


On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 20:12:01 +0200
Post by Paul Kosinski
When I started using Linux almost 20 years ago, I think there was
only nslookup, and no dig. So by habit, I tend to use it unless the
extra power of dig outweighs its extra complexity.
which extra complexity?
nameserver and that you need "dig -X" for a reverse-lookup?
you can use dig as nslookup, it's not required that you add a record
type - just "dig whatever" which is in that case even shorter
Post by Paul Kosinski
On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 11:42:20 -0600
Post by Grant Taylor via bind-users
Post by Bob McDonald
I don't think anyone hates nslookup (well maybe a few do <grin>)
I suppose the immense dislike stems from the fact that it's the
default utility under Windows. Folks who use dig as their default
realize that when used properly, dig provides much more
functionality than nslookup. For example, try using TSIG with
nslookup or getting a NSID response. These are only a couple of
examples. There's other reasons to change. The output from dig is
much more comprehensive. And, yes, if you install the bind tools
from ISC under Windows, dig works quite well.
I've been told that nslookup will lie and provide incorrect
information in some situations. I have no idea what situations
that is. I would love to learn what they are.
If you know of such an example, please enlighten me.
As such, I tend to use nslookup on platforms without dig when or
until I have reason to not do so
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Barry Margolin
2018-08-18 23:53:26 UTC
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Post by Grant Taylor via bind-users
Post by Bob McDonald
I don't think anyone hates nslookup (well maybe a few do <grin>) I
suppose the immense dislike stems from the fact that it's the default
utility under Windows. Folks who use dig as their default realize that
when used properly, dig provides much more functionality than nslookup.
For example, try using TSIG with nslookup or getting a NSID response.
These are only a couple of examples. There's other reasons to change.
The output from dig is much more comprehensive. And, yes, if you install
the bind tools from ISC under Windows, dig works quite well.
I've been told that nslookup will lie and provide incorrect information
in some situations. I have no idea what situations that is. I would
love to learn what they are.
If you know of such an example, please enlighten me.
As such, I tend to use nslookup on platforms without dig when or until I
have reason to not do so.
I don't think it "lies" much, but the output isn't as clear and
unambiguous as dig's. When it reports errors, it can be difficult to
tell specifically what the actual error was.

One example I can think of is that for some reason it expects the
nameserver to be able to reverse-resolve its own IP. If it can't, it
reports this as an error, and you might think that it's reporting an
error about the name you're actually trying to look up.
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Doug Barton
2018-08-19 00:04:34 UTC
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Post by Barry Margolin
Post by Grant Taylor via bind-users
Post by Bob McDonald
I don't think anyone hates nslookup (well maybe a few do <grin>) I
suppose the immense dislike stems from the fact that it's the default
utility under Windows. Folks who use dig as their default realize that
when used properly, dig provides much more functionality than nslookup.
For example, try using TSIG with nslookup or getting a NSID response.
These are only a couple of examples. There's other reasons to change.
The output from dig is much more comprehensive. And, yes, if you install
the bind tools from ISC under Windows, dig works quite well.
I've been told that nslookup will lie and provide incorrect information
in some situations. I have no idea what situations that is. I would
love to learn what they are.
If you know of such an example, please enlighten me.
As such, I tend to use nslookup on platforms without dig when or until I
have reason to not do so.
I don't think it "lies" much, but the output isn't as clear and
unambiguous as dig's. When it reports errors, it can be difficult to
tell specifically what the actual error was.
One example I can think of is that for some reason it expects the
nameserver to be able to reverse-resolve its own IP. If it can't, it
reports this as an error, and you might think that it's reporting an
error about the name you're actually trying to look up.
nslookup uses the local resolver stub. That's fine, if that's what you
want/need to test. If you want to test specific servers, or what is
visible from the Internet, etc. dig is the right tool, as the answers
you get from nslookup cannot be guaranteed to be directly related to the
question you asked.
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Doug Barton
2018-08-19 22:20:32 UTC
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Post by Doug Barton
nslookup uses the local resolver stub. That's fine, if that's what you
want/need to test. If you want to test specific servers, or what is
visible from the Internet, etc. dig is the right tool, as the answers
you get from nslookup cannot be guaranteed to be directly related to the
question you asked.
Could you expand on that a bit please? I thought
nslookup <name> <server>
was pretty much equivalent to
the exception being that nslookup looks for a & aaaa records and dig
just looks for a records
Nope. Depending on what operating system you're on, what version of
nslookup you have, how you format your query, and how the system is
configured; even telling nslookup to query a specific server may not get
you the answer you're looking for.

If you want to know what answer your stub resolver is going to return
for a given query, nslookup is a great tool. Although, if you just need
to know what address record you'll get back, ping works just as well.

If you want to really debug DNS you need to learn to use dig, and
understand the output.
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Lee
2018-08-20 02:28:49 UTC
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Post by Doug Barton
Post by Doug Barton
nslookup uses the local resolver stub. That's fine, if that's what you
want/need to test. If you want to test specific servers, or what is
visible from the Internet, etc. dig is the right tool, as the answers
you get from nslookup cannot be guaranteed to be directly related to the
question you asked.
Could you expand on that a bit please? I thought
nslookup <name> <server>
was pretty much equivalent to
the exception being that nslookup looks for a & aaaa records and dig
just looks for a records
Nope. Depending on what operating system you're on, what version of
nslookup you have, how you format your query, and how the system is
configured; even telling nslookup to query a specific server may not get
you the answer you're looking for.
That's still awfully vague. Do you have any examples of
nslookup <name> <server>
returning bad information?
Post by Doug Barton
If you want to know what answer your stub resolver is going to return
for a given query, nslookup is a great tool. Although, if you just need
to know what address record you'll get back, ping works just as well.
ping just shows one address; "nslookup www.yahoo.com" shows all of them
Post by Doug Barton
If you want to really debug DNS you need to learn to use dig, and
understand the output.
Agreed. If you're serious about debugging DNS you needs to learn dig.
But the assertion is
Post by Doug Barton
Post by Doug Barton
... the answers
you get from nslookup cannot be guaranteed to be directly related to the
question you asked.
so I'm wondering how, or under what circumstances, nslookup returns
invalid information.

Thanks
Lee
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Mark Andrews
2018-08-20 02:59:40 UTC
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nslookup applies the search list by default and doesn’t stop on a NODATA response.

Some versions of nslookup have been modified by OS vendors to use /etc/hosts for address lookups.

nslookup doesn’t display the entire response by default.
Post by Lee
Post by Doug Barton
Post by Doug Barton
nslookup uses the local resolver stub. That's fine, if that's what you
want/need to test. If you want to test specific servers, or what is
visible from the Internet, etc. dig is the right tool, as the answers
you get from nslookup cannot be guaranteed to be directly related to the
question you asked.
Could you expand on that a bit please? I thought
nslookup <name> <server>
was pretty much equivalent to
the exception being that nslookup looks for a & aaaa records and dig
just looks for a records
Nope. Depending on what operating system you're on, what version of
nslookup you have, how you format your query, and how the system is
configured; even telling nslookup to query a specific server may not get
you the answer you're looking for.
That's still awfully vague. Do you have any examples of
nslookup <name> <server>
returning bad information?
Post by Doug Barton
If you want to know what answer your stub resolver is going to return
for a given query, nslookup is a great tool. Although, if you just need
to know what address record you'll get back, ping works just as well.
ping just shows one address; "nslookup www.yahoo.com" shows all of them
Post by Doug Barton
If you want to really debug DNS you need to learn to use dig, and
understand the output.
Agreed. If you're serious about debugging DNS you needs to learn dig.
But the assertion is
Post by Doug Barton
Post by Doug Barton
... the answers
you get from nslookup cannot be guaranteed to be directly related to the
question you asked.
so I'm wondering how, or under what circumstances, nslookup returns
invalid information.
Thanks
Lee
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Doug Barton
2018-08-20 05:31:57 UTC
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And don't forget NIS, and NSSwitch. And don't get me started on the
tricks that the windows resolver plays.
Post by Mark Andrews
nslookup applies the search list by default and doesn’t stop on a NODATA response.
Some versions of nslookup have been modified by OS vendors to use /etc/hosts for address lookups.
nslookup doesn’t display the entire response by default.
Post by Lee
Post by Doug Barton
Post by Doug Barton
nslookup uses the local resolver stub. That's fine, if that's what you
want/need to test. If you want to test specific servers, or what is
visible from the Internet, etc. dig is the right tool, as the answers
you get from nslookup cannot be guaranteed to be directly related to the
question you asked.
Could you expand on that a bit please? I thought
nslookup <name> <server>
was pretty much equivalent to
the exception being that nslookup looks for a & aaaa records and dig
just looks for a records
Nope. Depending on what operating system you're on, what version of
nslookup you have, how you format your query, and how the system is
configured; even telling nslookup to query a specific server may not get
you the answer you're looking for.
That's still awfully vague. Do you have any examples of
nslookup <name> <server>
returning bad information?
Post by Doug Barton
If you want to know what answer your stub resolver is going to return
for a given query, nslookup is a great tool. Although, if you just need
to know what address record you'll get back, ping works just as well.
ping just shows one address; "nslookup www.yahoo.com" shows all of them
Post by Doug Barton
If you want to really debug DNS you need to learn to use dig, and
understand the output.
Agreed. If you're serious about debugging DNS you needs to learn dig.
But the assertion is
Post by Doug Barton
Post by Doug Barton
... the answers
you get from nslookup cannot be guaranteed to be directly related to the
question you asked.
so I'm wondering how, or under what circumstances, nslookup returns
invalid information.
Thanks
Lee
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Lee
2018-08-20 17:14:37 UTC
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Post by Mark Andrews
nslookup applies the search list by default and doesn’t stop on a NODATA response.
Some versions of nslookup have been modified by OS vendors to use /etc/hosts
for address lookups.
nslookup doesn’t display the entire response by default.
I learned something :) Thank you
Not that I know the implications of "doesn’t stop on a NODATA
response" but hopefully that can be remedied.

wrt the search list, that's why I got in the habit of always typing
the trailing dot. I've never seen that fail, but 'set nosearch' is
supposed to do the same thing.

'set debug' and 'set d2' displays lots, but I never checked to see if
it was the entire response or no

So... it seems like the bottom line is that dig is better but nslookup
ain't all that bad

Thanks
Lee
Post by Mark Andrews
Post by Lee
Post by Doug Barton
Post by Doug Barton
nslookup uses the local resolver stub. That's fine, if that's what you
want/need to test. If you want to test specific servers, or what is
visible from the Internet, etc. dig is the right tool, as the answers
you get from nslookup cannot be guaranteed to be directly related to the
question you asked.
Could you expand on that a bit please? I thought
nslookup <name> <server>
was pretty much equivalent to
the exception being that nslookup looks for a & aaaa records and dig
just looks for a records
Nope. Depending on what operating system you're on, what version of
nslookup you have, how you format your query, and how the system is
configured; even telling nslookup to query a specific server may not get
you the answer you're looking for.
That's still awfully vague. Do you have any examples of
nslookup <name> <server>
returning bad information?
Post by Doug Barton
If you want to know what answer your stub resolver is going to return
for a given query, nslookup is a great tool. Although, if you just need
to know what address record you'll get back, ping works just as well.
ping just shows one address; "nslookup www.yahoo.com" shows all of them
Post by Doug Barton
If you want to really debug DNS you need to learn to use dig, and
understand the output.
Agreed. If you're serious about debugging DNS you needs to learn dig.
But the assertion is
Post by Doug Barton
Post by Doug Barton
... the answers
you get from nslookup cannot be guaranteed to be directly related to the
question you asked.
so I'm wondering how, or under what circumstances, nslookup returns
invalid information.
Thanks
Lee
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Tony Finch
2018-08-20 17:59:25 UTC
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Post by Lee
So... it seems like the bottom line is that dig is better but nslookup
ain't all that bad
Be careful though, all bets are off if you find yourself using something
that claims to be nslookup but which isn't the BIND9 version.

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Doug Barton
2018-08-21 05:30:24 UTC
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Post by Lee
Post by Mark Andrews
nslookup applies the search list by default and doesn’t stop on a NODATA response.
Some versions of nslookup have been modified by OS vendors to use /etc/hosts
for address lookups.
nslookup doesn’t display the entire response by default.
I learned something :) Thank you
Not that I know the implications of "doesn’t stop on a NODATA
response" but hopefully that can be remedied.
wrt the search list, that's why I got in the habit of always typing
the trailing dot. I've never seen that fail, but 'set nosearch' is
supposed to do the same thing.
'set debug' and 'set d2' displays lots, but I never checked to see if
it was the entire response or no
So... it seems like the bottom line is that dig is better but nslookup
ain't all that bad
Lee,

Messages like this, and the one you sent me privately, are the reason
that I usually don't even bother replying to messages on this list. I
don't say that to denigrate you. I say it in the hopes that someone,
maybe even you, will learn from your mistake.

Your "bottom line" completely misses basically everything that's been
said in this thread. No one has made any statement about nslookup being
"bad," or "worse" than any other tool. I have clearly stated the
contexts in which the two tools are more or less suited for a given
situation, and given reasons why. Others have expanded on those reasons.

If you still don't understand why, at least try to understand the when
and how. Go back and re-read the thread. Look up the terms that you
don't understand. You can even ask reasonable, specific questions to the
effect of, "I looked up term XYZ but didn't understand how the zig
interacts with the zag, can someone explain that to me?"

In other words, do SOMETHING to help yourself. Don't complain that no
one worked hard enough to make you understand something that you seem to
be working so hard to misunderstand.

Good luck,

Doug
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